Frank O'Donnell helps the EPA define "success"

Clean Air Watch President Frank O'Donnell stops by to parse the EPA Chief Steve Johnson's latest announcement on the Bush Administration's efforts to "reduce" greenhouse gas emissions: "The bottom line is the actual volume of emissions continues to grow. The climate and the planet doesn't care so much about intensity or rates of things, they care about  actual volume of pollution that's effecting the climate." LISTEN (12 min)