An interview with Bert Cunningham after he was forced to resign as Customs Comptroller.
17.08.08
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Les révélations de
Bert Cunningham
Mr Bert
Cunningham, you met the Prime Minister and the Minister of finance at the Prime
Minister's Office last Monday, what was the tenor of the conversation?
-It was a very long meeting that
lasted for over three hours convened personally by Dr Navin Ramgoolam himself
in the presence of Mr Rama Sithanen. We spoke about the reasons of my forced
departure and some very big pending cases of fraud and corruption, the TV thing
and what I can foresee at the Customs and the Mauritius Revenue Authority. For
more than three hours I had given full details of everything, of what was going
on at the Customs, how many hundreds of millions of rupees are involved in
those big cases that the Government of Mauritius needs to cash. My personal
security was as well discussed and I was very much impressed to see the Prime
Minister phoning the commissioner of Police requesting him that all be done to
have me fully secured here. I said thank you and at least I know from there on
that I will not go frozen.
Are you serious when you say that
Dr Navin Ramggolam or his Minister of Finance were not aware of those big
cases?
The impression Dr Ramgoolam gave me
was that he was not put into the picture at all about all those very big cases.
I call these very big cases because there are big cases as well and petty cases
too. He was absolutely shocked when I gave him full details and mentioned names
as well. You know, since the setting up of the Mauritius Revenue Authority, I
am not allowed to communicate to the Commissioner of Police directly, to the
Prime Minister, the Minister of Finance, the Financial Intelligence Unit, the
Customs authorities of the region, any Minister, any Permanent secretary etc.
The MRA has tied my hand, blindfolded me and glued my mouth. This is where all
the problems started.
And the Minister of Finance, what
impression did he give you?
-He gave me the impression that he
was not put into full picture by his officers. He was more on a defensive side
throughout that very long meeting.
Do you think that there will be
actions taken...
-Well, I have said all to both of
them. They are fully aware of the Web of mafia operating at the highest
Government level, the Caste Based Strategy and immediately, the Prime Minister
requested that the dossiers be on his table the next morning. From what I have
gathered, he is now in presence of all the files containing these very big
cases of fraud and corruption at the customs. He gave me the impression that he
is not happy about that. He showed his anger. The ball is in his yard now. I
have reasons to believe that he is going to take the necessary steps against
all these fraudulent and corrupted people. The people involved in these very
big cases of fraud and corruption must be shivering now. I know at least one
very much involved in Horse Racing who is shivering since I disclosed his name
to the Prime mister in the presence of the Minister of Finance. He must be very
much scared.
Did Dr Navin Ramgoolam make any
request to you to assist in any way?
-Yes, he did and I guaranteed him
that I will do the best I can to help him and the Republic of Mauritius in
anyway I can. I have met various Ambassadors and diplomatic representatives
since I have been forced to leave my position at the Customs and I know what
I'm talking about. They are in permanent contact with me. Coming back to your
question, I am even ready to come back here to help the country as a whole, but
provided you guarantee my security.
Would you agree to talk to us about
these very big cases as you say?
Yes. There's one involving some
7000 cases of whisky imported from Scotland, one involving import of a container of cigarettes from
China, one involving drugs in Rodrigues, one involving import of spare
parts. The import of the bulk whisky is one of the biggest cases amongst
others. A bulk of whisky came from Scotland and was, according to our inquiries
and investigations, made with the help of the British customs. We have all
documents showing bank transfers from the exporter in Scotland handed to us by
UK Customs. We had full support and assistance from the UK Customs and some
officers from UK came over in Mauritius to help us complete our investigation.
We came to the conclusion that this was a solid case that needs to be referred
to the police. The files were handed over to the Police. The police did the job
properly, sent the files to the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions.
The case has been going on for years. I was personally monitoring it because we
concluded that some Rs 300 millions were involved. Then I never heard anything.
This worried me and I inquired. You know what I heard That prosecution will not
be underway against the importer not because of lack of evidence but for some
other reasons which was not given. I remembered them that the UK customs was
standby and prepared to come to depone in Court here. Three months later, I ask
for a review of the decision. The Customs was only informed four months later
that there were no prosecutions against the importer. I got suspicious and
asked for all the files back to customs. You know what I was told? That all
customs files and documents were stolen. I reported this to the MRA. I have
never heard of any investigation since.
So they stopped your action?
-No. I still wrote to the Police
and requested that all the files and documents be sent back to the customs
since there were no intention to prosecute the importer. The police wrote to me
and said that upon advice they are not allowed to return back the documents and
files to the customs. So, no files, no, documents, no evidence. Thus there was
no way to ask for a judicial review.
And then?
-We started our own investigation
at the customs. We obtained from viable sources that corruption in this
particular case involved people working at the the legal levels, the Ministry
of Finance and the Prime Minister's Office. I'm not talking about the Prime
Minister nor the Minister of Finance, but of Top Executives and some of whom
are closely related to the importer. Then I could understand why the importer
has not been prosecuted. I reported the corruption case in writing to the
Director General of the MRA, Mr Sudamo Lal. He sent my letter to the State
Law's Office. They did not even dare ask me what the allegations were. The
State Law office put in writing that there was no case against the importer. Instead
I was duly requested to release all the whisky to the importer even though I
re-opened the case and even though the Judge's order was still valid, even
though the UK Customs was waiting and even though the allegation of corruption
was there. They instructed me to release the whisky. I did so under protest.
From what we can see, you were very
much disappointed?
-Oh yes. Not only disappointed. I
was angry, frustrated. Not only me but all the officers and managers that
worked on this particular case. More so when I was told of what the rate of
Duty and Tax should be.
What was the rate of duty and tax
charged?
-It is absolutely unbelievable.
Under strict advice of the State Law Office, we were requested to charge 50%
less than what the rate should be.
Another case that would be
interesting for you to recall but which you feel smells as bad as the whisky?
-Yes, the smuggling of cigarettes where a number of
customs officers were involved and interdicted by the Independent Commission
Against Corruption in 2002. These officers spent three years at home with full
pay. When the time came to prosecute, the DPP decided that there were no
criminal prosecutions, but only disciplinary actions. The four officers were
reintegrated and had promotions later on. Yes, they were promoted. Still, when
we inquired, we were informed that draft charges to have disciplinary actions
against those officers were underway at the DPP's level.
And what was your reaction?
-I wrote to ICAC in order to have
the necessary documents to take actions. For two years following my letter,
ICAC never responded to me. At least three of these officers should have been
criminally charged. Then came the MRA in 2006. Drafts were prepared for
disciplinary actions to be taken. I sent these to the ministry of finance. It's
two years now since these drafts have been sent and yet no disciplinary action
has been taken. These officers are still working for MRA. Disgusting.
One more case Mr Cunningham?
A Customs Broker, now a high member of an Association. He went to China
with a few customs officers in a case involving Smuggling of cigarettes. We had good information about the
transaction and the matter after our investigations was referred to ICAC. There, the broker made a
statement admitting full knowledge and participation in the smuggling of
cigarettes. When I saw the statement from ICAC, I immediately
recommended that his license be revoked. This was sent to the Director General
of the MRA. He asked for advice from the State Law Office. He said we cannot
abuse of our authority even though the offence of smuggling has no time limit.
They still don't take his license away. His case has not been heard since 2001
or rather not yet been heard and we are now in 2008. The worse is that none of
the customs officers have been held accountable and are still working at the
MRA. The broker still holds a license issued by the DG of the MRA.
Are there other more cases on which
you would like to elaborate?
-Yes. The Drug traffic in Rodrigues
where a custom officer was involved. He left her place of duty on a particular
day, drove to the airport, met a man who arrived from Mauritius, was present
when the man presented himself at the Customs. An ADSU officer was watching
closely. He drove the man to a hotel and the ADSU followed them. They took a
room and after thirty minutes, the ADSU officer broke the door. The custom
officer was in the bathroom and the man was in bed with the heroine. He was
duly arrested, jailed but passed way in the police cell the next day. Supposedly,
he died from overdose. No statement was ever taken from the custom officer. The
corpse was sent back immediately to Mauritius and disposed very quickly.
Despite my several requests the postmortem report has never been disclosed. I
got the information and set off for Rodrigues after two days. I asked to the
police why no statement were taken from the the custom officer and they could
not answer. I personally wrote to the Chief Island Executive, Mr Wong So and
said to him that disciplinary action needs to be taken against the Customs
officers, but he refused. You know what were his reasons: Rodrigues
Establishment is the entity that pays their salary and that we do not have any
jurisdictions. So, under those circusmtances, we could not take any action.
Was this case reported to the MRA?
-Of course. I reported it and
strongly recommended that the services of that custom officer is not hired.
They did the contrary. I wrote again to the MRA and protested. They did their
own investigation but he is still working in the Customs.
Now we would like you to talk about
the case where an importer of spare parts apparently beneficiated from a
gratuity with your approval. It has been alleged that some Rs 800 000 were
involved. Can you explain why?
-This is another issue was raised
and used by some people in order to harm me. In fact, we had the importer, a
very young guy in his early twenties who was caught by Customs. We had evidence
that he was defrauding. He was brought to my office and all that happened in
the presence of his lawyer. According to our evaluation, he should have been
charged for some Rs 1.6 million. We applied the very maximum charge because we
could deduce that he had a lot of useful and important information which could
help us. Eventually, he said he could not afford that amount but was ready to
give a guarantee of Rs 800 000 and give solid evidence regarding five other
importers of spare parts. We said to his lawyer, we cannot guarantee that he
will have to pay only Rs 800 000 until we have inquired into what he revealed
and documents he gave us the very next day he was caught. We investigated and
caught three of those five importers. Our strategy worked perfectly. They were
fined and we got much much more than expected. So we agreed with his initial
proposal and he gave a bank guarantee for Rs 800 000. Now after some years, the
original document was found to have disappeared from our office and replaced by
a very much professionally scanned copy that you would say was the original
document. We investigated and found out that the original was handed over to
the importer against a bribe of Rs 120 000. The matter was referred to the
police. In the meantime at the car park of Jumbo in Phoenix, the importer was
in the presence of a police officer and the Customs officer who had stolen the
original bank guarantee document. The latter stabbed the importer at the back
and they left him to die in the car park. Police investigated into the matter
and the proper punishment were applied. Now, to say that we gave a gratuity to
the importer is absolutely ridiculous. We, in fact, offered him the opportunity
to be punished less than what he should have been under normal circumstances
only because he was our informant. The customs is not like ADSU and so we
cannot give reward. So we did something different and it worked. Did we do
something wrong when we all know that the information of that importer allowed
the account of the MRA be credited with millions of rupees? If I have to use
that device twenty times, I will without any hesitation.
Mr Cunningham, the MRA has cleared
you regarding the TV thing and stillyou had officers from ICAC at your office.
You said that they came to take statement from their new witness in that TV
thing. Could we know more about that?
-Yes. The accused is now the
witness. A boomerang effect. You know whilst they were taking my statement, I
told them how come that I was the last person to be interviewed by them and why
they allowed some radios and newspapers to tarnish my name here. You know what
they said: Mr Cunningham, this is the procedure. Oh! Anyway, I have been asked
by ICAC to explain that episode at the airport, that pr the other truth will
come out. Now, I can say that truth has triumphed.
But, the MRA held a Press
conference last Thursday and the said that you were insubordinate, an outlaw, a
destabilizing figure who dared went to talk to the Minister of Finance?
-You talking about the MRA held a
press conference, you should rather say Mr Sudamo Lal and Mr Yip held a press
conference. Ask yourself why the other Directors were not present. Ask yourself
why the chairman of the MRA was not present when I was forced to leave my
position on that very Friday night. That's why they said I did not resign and
that they did not revoke me. But they put a dagger under my neck and told me to
sign the letter. They said if you don't go, we will not publish the notice they
had already given me stating that I have committed no wrongdoing or malpractice
in the TV matter and that they will not pay me the gratuity of US $ 33 000 the
MRA retained since the TV inquiry we started. Insubordinate, destabilization.
This is nonsense Mr Lal and Mr Yip. Do you know that I received a phone call
from a very Director of the MRA who told me that if I do not leave Mauritius
quickly, they cannot guarantee my security since very important people are
involved in the big fraud and corruption cases I have brought to their
attention. That's where started my fears that I could go back to Canada frozen.
A dead lie was told to the press last Thursday. You now have a clear example of
how the MRA operates. Insubordinate, distabilising, outlaw. Oh I can now
understand why they wanted my head. What I have done wrong? Reported cases to
Mr. Sithanen. I did it and felt it was my duty and my responsibility as a
professional towards the Republic of Mauritius to proceed that way,
irrespective of the attitude of the MRA against me. Today, I bear the
consequences of my action, but I believe in truth and honesty.
From what we have been able to
gather, there was a conflict between Mr Lal and yourself?
-Can I say the contrary? Right from
the very start of the MRA, I did not see any support. Instead all
communications were centralised. I was left with no power to act, with a petty
cash of Rs 9000 only and with no budget. I was not allowed to hold any press
conference nor to give any interview. I was not allowe
From what we have been able to
gather, there was a conflict between Mr Lal and yourself?
-Can I say the contrary? Right from
the very start of the MRA, I did not see any support. Instead all
communications were centralised. I was left with no power to act, with a petty
cash of Rs 9000 only and with no budget. I was not allowed to hold any press
conference nor to give any interview. I was not allowed to communicate to the
the persons at the head of major authorties here. This is fundamentally wrong.
They completely tied me. Never in my life had I seen such centralised
bureaucracy. Since MRA came, the customs department has never been allowed to
integrate the MRA. In two years, the Director General came to the Customs only
once and to my invitation. Can you imagine that Mr Lal has never dared pay a
visit to the new Customs house due to be handed over to the Customs next month.
All my staff who used to work into the fraud and corruption cases were
transferred. When there was that big inquiry into Horse racing, so many funny
things happened.
We have in front of us a Bert
Cunningham very much frustrated?
-My frustration is due to many
reasons. I have worked for some eight Revenue authorities in this region and I
don't think that Mr Lall has my experience nor any other member of the Board.
In two years, I have had to operate with a part time personel officer and his
office is located far from the customs building in Port-Louis. Today, many of
the 13 Directors who worked with me do not have the necessary staff. I can
recall that many of the Senior Post at the MRA have not yet been filled. Can
you imagine that the MRA does not care for training. Never throughout my career
have I seen such a poorly run organization. Go and ask the Senior managers at
customs whether their department is fully supported by the MRA. I have
presented some 55 projects of reforms and yet not once has the MRA asked me to
give them one explanation.
You have also been criticised after
your meeting with Mr Rama Sithanen?
-Yes. In mid December 2007, I
raised all these things with Mr Sithanen. I came back form vacation and I was
asked to attend a meeting by the MRA Board where I was criticized for having
talked to Mr Sithanen with whom I raised many fraud and corruption cases that,
according to me and my managers, have not been properly dealt with by the MRA.
The MRA Board reprimanded me. Then, I told Mr Lal that if ever those cases were
exposed, he will lose his job. He did not take my advice and paradoxally I have
lost my job. The MRA shoot the messenger. If you call my action insubordination
when I went to the Minister of Finance to tell him what was going on, then I am
guilty of charge. I met the Minister of Finance because from my twenty years of
experience in this region, I am of the opinion that its critical that these
fundamental problems be seriously dealt with.
Have you ever made any
recommendation to the Director General of the MRA?
-Yes. I recommended that if the MRA
could not properly support Customs, then Customs should be seperated from the
MRA. I think that's the best solution. I do not see things improving. Instead
of the MRA helping and facilitating Customs Reforms and the modernization
program, it made all this impossible. Personally I deeply regret to have
suggested that the MRA be created. I wish I never ever made that recommendation
to the Governement here at least from a Customs perspective. With the idea of
having Mauritius a Duty Free Island, there are little reasons for Customs to be
part of the MRA. This is my humble opinion. So if the Government wants to have
customs out of MRA, invite me back. I would rather suggest that Customs should
be joined with Immigration, Coast Guard and the border Control Sections of
Health, Agriculture and Fisheries. This is the trend in many developed
countries. We call it Single Border Agency.
Mr Lal and Mr Yip also raised the
issue of declaration of assets of the MRA personnel. They did not hesitate to
criticize you on that issue as well. How do you see their critics?
-Must I laugh or rather say that I
respect the opinion of those who say that even though an officer has been
involved in drugs, in fraud, in massive corruption in the past, who has made
fortunes should still work at the MRA because the MRA is not interested at all
with what happened before it was instituted? In brief, MRA gives an amnesty on
any ill-gotten act. I wrote to the MRA when staff was being recruited to say
please be very careful about some officers when they recruit. Yet, not one of
the officers I have reported for fraud and corruption have ever been requested
to explain their wealth by the Internal Affairs of the MRA. Not one involved in
fraud and corruption cases have been asked to give explanations by the MRA. I
have sent dozens of cases but they are working at the very MRA. Any manager
worth his salt would have thrown up his arms and left long time ago. There's no
leadership in the MRA. Call me insubordinate. No one has ever brought me here
to have blindfolds put on me and handcuffs in my hands. When I see fraud and
corruption cases not being dealt with, I am not that kind of guy who can
conform working in an imperfect system and find administrative solutions to
major fraud and corruption cases. From an advertisement in the newspapers these
days, it is clear that they are looking for someone that is able to work in an
imperfect system and turn a blind eye to fraud and corruption. Good luck to
them and to Mauritius.
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